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Vote-Count Problems in Georgia 



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Click here for Absentee Ballot for Georgia Elections



In Macon-Bibb County, the Absentee Ballot can be sent by mail, fax or email:

Scan the completed Absentee Ballot Application & Email to: absentee@maconbibb.us
or
Fax to: 478-621-6119

or
Mail to
: Macon-Bibb County Board of Elections, P O Box 6297, Macon, GA 31208



 


Virginia: Board of Elections halts use of voting machines considered vulnerable to hacking | Reuters

Virginia on Friday agreed to stop using paperless touchscreen voting machines that had been flagged by cyber security experts as potentially vulnerable to hackers and lacking sufficient vote auditing capabilities. The action represented one of the most concrete steps taken by a U.S. state to bolster the cyber security of election systems since the 2016 presidential race, when U.S. intelligence agencies say Russia waged a digital influence campaign to help President Donald Trump win. Virginia’s board of elections voted to accept a recommendation from its state election director, Edgardo Cortes, to decertify so-called direct-recording electronic machines, which count votes digitally and do not produce paper trails that can be checked against a final result.

 

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National: Legacy voting machines ripe for tampering, breakdowns | GCN

As America preps for the next presidential election, its voting machines are in need of a serious update. Almost every state is using electronic touchscreen and optical-scan voting machines that are at least 10 years old, according a recent Wired article, with Florida, Kentucky, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Texas and Virginia are all using voting machines that are at least 15 years old. When these machines were introduced, dial-up Internet was used by most of the country, and the voting technology was equally primitive. These outdated machines have a litany of problems including degrading touchscreens, worn-out modems and failing memory cards. And this is before one considers the cybersecurity issues.

Earlier this year, Jeremy Epstein, the senior computer scientist at SRI International, wrote an article on why the AVS WinVote touchscreen Direct Recording Electronic voting machines were decertified by the Virginia State Board of Elections.

According to Epstein, the decertification was sparked on Election Day in November 2014, when machines in one precinct crashed repeatedly because, according to rumors, a volunteer was trying to download music onto his iPhone. The Virginia Information Technology Agency (VITA) was tasked with investigating the problems and published a report saying the machines had a host of problems.

Full Article: Legacy voting machines ripe for tampering, breakdowns — GCN.




Diebold Charged With Bribery, Falsifying Docs, 'Worldwide Pattern of Criminal Conduct'
Diebold is the company that produced and managed all the Voting Machines in Georgia.







    100 reasons-for-new-voting-machines 







Here is information about Bibb County Elections,
Sample Ballots and Election Returns

fax in request for absentee ballot to Bibb BOE:  478-784-9774
...

VOTE BY PAPER ABSENTEE BALLOT!
(sometimes called an Absentee Ballot, but you do not have to be Absentee to Get One!)

http://sos.ga.gov/elections/elections/voter_information/absentee_ballot_app.pdf
...
State of Georgia "My Voter Page"




Voter Georgia Updates

Many of you have talked about voting in advance on paper ballots for [any] upcoming election. Aaron Ruscetta, a long time activist for evidence based voting, has put up a web site with some information that might be helpful. The link is:
http://www.papercounts.org/
 

From: "Garland Favorito" <garlandf@msn.com>
Voter Georgia
http://voterga.org/




http://www.truthout.org/122408J

Rove's IT Guru Warned of Elections Sabotage Before Fatal Plane Crash; Was Set to Testify

By Amy Goodman, Democracy Now!. Posted December 22, 2008
...A top Republican internet strategist who was set to testify in a case alleging election tampering in 2004 in Ohio has died in a plane crash. Mike Connell was the chief IT consultant to Karl Rove and created websites for the Bush and McCain electoral campaigns. He also set up the official Ohio state election website reporting the 2004 presidential election returns.

Connell was reportedly an experienced pilot. He died instantly Friday night when his private plane crashed in a residential neighborhood near Akron, Ohio.

Michael Connell was deposed one day before the election this year by attorneys Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis about his actions during the 2004 vote count and his access to Karl Rove's e-mail files and how they went missing.

Connell was a high-IQ Forrest Gump, by which they mean that he seems to have been present at the scene of every dubious election of the last eight years. We're talking about Florida in 2000. We're talking about Ohio in 2004. We're talking about Alabama in 2002. He seems to have been involved in the theft of Don Siegelman's re-election for governor. There's some evidence that links him with the Saxby Chambliss-Max Cleland Senate race in Georgia in 2002. To be Karl Rove's IT guru seems to have meant basically setting it up so that votes could be electronically shaved to the disadvantage of the Democrats and the advantage of Republicans....

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12-17-07 Report about the Ohio Vote Inconsistencies in 2004. 
Documentation grows (12-17-07) that the vote was flipped from Kerry to Bush...

 

Rolling Stone Magazine demands a complete investigation by federal authorities to determine the full extent of any bribery and vote rigging that has taken place. "The public must be assured that the power to count the votes -- and to recount them, if necessary -- will not be ceded to for-profit corporations with a vested interest in superseding the will of the people. America's elections are the most fundamental element of our democracy -- not a market to be privatized by companies like Diebold."  Read it all






Sale on eBay exposes vote security flaw
Encoders, access cards auctioned


By CARLOS CAMPOS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 01/30/07

Some key components of one of Georgia's most sacred institutions — that had been discovered in discarded office furniture — were recently auctioned on eBay.

About 40 voter access cards and three electronic ballot encoders belonging to DeKalb County were purchased earlier this month on the auction Web site, according to Secretary of State Karen Handel. Another seven supervisor's cards, used to activate the encoders, also were up for bid.

 
 
All of the cards and encoders have been recovered, Handel said. The cards apparently had been used only for training in mock elections, and the encoders are obsolete; Georgia now uses electronic poll books to load voter access cards with the proper ballots.

But the discovery exposed a flaw in the security of electronic voting, which is already under fire over fears of hacking.

"While this equipment was not used in elections, this nonetheless underscores how important inventory control is, and we're going to undertake extra measures to ensure security," Handel said Monday.

According to Handel, DeKalb County renovated some of its offices and sold some of its old furniture.

Apparently, officials failed to check the drawers. The buyer of the furniture found the cards and sold some of them on eBay. The buyer turned out to be Diebold Election Systems, the manufacturers of Georgia's electronic voting equipment.

Handel eventually contacted the seller, who voluntarily turned over the rest of the cards. Handel said she doesn't plan to pursue criminal charges against the man, a metro Atlanta furniture dealer.

Handel has ordered an independent audit of DeKalb County's voting equipment and its security and custody procedures.

She also planned to send a notice to county election supervisors, reminding them of the importance of securing election equipment.

Handel said the State Election Board, which she chairs, will decide whether to sanction DeKalb County elections officials.

In the meantime, she said the board should adopt a policy on how to properly dispose of obsolete equipment.

DeKalb CEO Vernon Jones sent a letter to Handel on Friday pledging his support for the audit.

"Please be assured that the county places the highest priority to maintaining the integrity and transparency of our election processes," Jones wrote.








Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 1, 2006; Page A01

Paperless electronic voting machines used throughout the Washington region and much of the country "cannot be made secure," according to draft recommendations issued this week by a federal agency that advises the U.S. Election Assistance Commission.

The assessment by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, one of the government's premier research centers, is the most sweeping condemnation of such voting systems by a federal agency.

In a report hailed by critics of electronic voting, NIST said that voting systems should allow election officials to recount ballots independently from a voting machine's software. The recommendations endorse "optical-scan" systems in which voters mark paper ballots that are read by a computer and electronic systems that print a paper summary of each ballot, which voters review and elections officials save for recounts.
.. . . . . .
NIST says that voting systems should not rely on a machine's software to provide a record of the votes cast. Some electronic voting system manufacturers have introduced models that include printers to produce a separate record of each vote -- and that can be verified by a voter before leaving the machine -- but such paper trails have had their own problems

. . . . .

Read more from the front-page article in the Washington Post here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/30/AR2006113001637.html





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STATE ELECTION BOARD PUBLIC HEARINGS

The State Election Board (online) held public hearings for the purpose of public discussion on voting equipment currently used in the State of Georgia. Information gathered at these public hearings will be provided to the Georgia General Assembly during the next legislative session.

Representatives from the Office of the Secretary of State Elections Division, the Georgia State Election Board, County Election Officials, and other elections professionals attended.

Public hearings:

1. Thursday, December 14, 2006 – 2:00 P.M.
Woodbine City Hall Conference Room
310 Bedell Avenue, Woodbine, Georgia

2. Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:00 P.M.
Jessie Rice Elementary School Cafeteria
3750 Jessie Rice Street, Macon, Georgia

3. Thursday, December 21, 2006 – 10:00 A.M.
McEachern United Methodist Church
4075 Macland Road, Powder Springs, Georgia

For more information on these hearings, contact the Elections Division of the Secretary of State’s office at
404.656.2871 or visit the State Election Board online at www.gaseb.org



Dec. 2006
- The Florida voting machines appear to have flat-out lost 18,000 votes for Congress !!!

See:
 http://pol.moveon.org/floridaelection/


Wholesale fraud on the AccuVote TS

- How to steal an election by hacking the vote - 

Simple graphics expose the computer software and hardware flaws.


- - Industry Insider - -
Diebold Employee "Blows the Whistle"

Explains the Georgia 2002 Election surprises.
read the article

and

““Hotel Minibar” Keys Open Diebold Voting Machines”


Princeton University shows how to steal votes with Diebold Touch-Screen computers
"Princeton computer scientists have figured out how to hack into a Diebold AccuVote [sic] TouchScreen voting machine. The subversion of democracy takes a coupla minutes, a screwdriver or paperclip, plus a floppy with the malware they've written.
This is no comedy video; it's a bone-chilling, blood-pressure-raising, citizen-outraging rebuttal to all the calming unctuous bromides you've heard about the safety of our voting technology."

Stealing Votes




The
League of Women Voters
      supports a requirement for paper trails:      

Here's the text of the 2006 LWV resolution:

Resolution Related to Program Requiring a Voter-Verifiable Paper Ballot or Paper Record with Electronic Voting Machines

Motion to adopt the following resolution related to program requiring a voter-verified paper ballot or paper record with electronic voting systems.

Whereas: Some LWVs have had difficulty applying the SARA Resolution (Secure, Accurate, Recountable and Accessible) passed at the last Convention, and

Whereas: Paperless electronic voting systems are not inherently secure, can malfunction, and do not provide a recountable audit trail,

Therefore be it resolved that:

The position on the Citizens' Right to Vote be interpreted to affirm that LWVUS supports only voting systems that are designed so that:
they employ a voter-verifiable paper ballot or other paper record, said paper being the official record of the voter¹s intent; and
the voter can verify, either by eye or with the aid of suitable devices for those who have impaired vision, that the paper ballot/record accurately reflects his or her intent; and
such verification takes place while the voter is still in the process of voting; and
the paper ballot/record is used for audits and recounts; and
the vote totals can be verified by an independent hand count of the paper ballot/record; and
routine audits of the paper ballot/record in randomly selected precincts can be conducted in every election, and the results published by the jurisdiction.

click here for LWV story

   What does Georgia need?    Click here for Solutions      Geogia needs a voter-verified, permanent paper record (pictured below) with a manual audit capacity as a safeguard against computer malfunction or deliberate software fraud. 

 What Georgia Needs

 

Georgia's DRE voting machines are probably illegal ... 

... according to U.S. Sen. John Ensign (NV) who helped write the most recent federal law that governs elections.  Senator Ensign  amended the Equal Protection of Voting Rights Act of 2001, which was approved by the Senate.   It was renamed the Help America Vote Act. Then it was adopted by the full Congress and signed into law by President Bush. Senator Ensign's amendment requires a voter verified "permanent paper record with a manual audit capacity for such system. "

If there is any judicial doubt about the meaning of the words in this federal law, the intent of Ensign's provision is in his own words "to provide a voter-verifiable paper trail."

and, this voter-verified paper record shall be the "official record for any vote recount. "

Many diverse groups are concerned about states like Georgia [voting] without a verified paper record. The 200,000 strong Unitarian Universalist Association is urging its members to take action because " the new Direct Recording Electronic voting machines (DREs) ... remove ballot recording and vote counting from public oversight, contrary to democratic principles"

It should cost Georgia nothing to slightly modify the software in our current machines to create the paper record as required by Senator Ensign's amendment to the federal law. A quick and easy solution for Georgia is pictured below.  

Let's move swiftly to correct the deficiencies in the Georgia machines before they create an election crisis. Please ask your US Representative and Senators to help further clarify the guidelines for these new and imperfect voting machines by passing - The 'Voter Confidence Acts"


Someone  will eventually press the issues above in federal court.  Will an entire Georgia statewide election result be thrown out? 

Please read about the group Voters Organized for Trusted Election Results in Georgia  ( click here for http://www.voterga.org)


We need a quick and effective remedy...


Immediate Solution is available:   (See pictures below) - Diebold's electronic vote machines can be reprogramed to print out a voter-verifiable  summary of the voter's choices.  Use the existing printer in uncovered mode.  The voter will return this paper to the pollworker . This voter-verified paper ballot will be placed in a lock-box for later use for recounts or routine callibrations.

Please call your Representative and Senators. Ask for them to support  Federal Legislation to fix the problem.

Please notice the paper printer that is located in each Diebold machine 

No receipt -

.  The printer is usually hidden under a Locked Panel that is visible here sitting behind the computer case.   The printer cover panel is uncovered during testing procedures and after voting is over. If the plastic panel had a small slit opening, it could easily spit-out a paper receipt for each and every vote.  Below is an example of verified-paper-ballot the machine can produce if using modified software:

Lemons into Lemonade

Place your verified paper ballot in the Ballot Box.

 This becomes the official record of your vote regardless of what the computer may output.

Verified paper ballot votes

 Any manual recount of the paper ballots takes precedence over the machine counts.  The paper trail is the legal and official vote.

http://www.voterga.org

http://blackboxvoting.org

http://www.countpaperballots.com

http://www.verifiedvoting.org

Vote 411. Org


Vote-Count Reliability Problems in Macon , Ga. documented on March 2nd, 2004.

"This must be a bad data card"

Where did the data go?

Bad data cards

Diebold Technicians:

"This machine is not right"

 Diebold technicians try to solve problems

all images captured from the  8mm digital video

Visit Diebold - defenders and creators of flawed and illegal [HAVA] voting systems

Video documentation and letter below sent to Georgia Secretary of State on May 31st, 2004

Date: Mon, 31 May 2004

To: sosweb@sos.state.ga.us

From: Lindsay 'Doc' Holliday <teeth@mindspring.com>

Subject: Voting scenes in Macon on March 2nd, 2004.


Cathy Cox,   Georgia Secretary of State,   214 State Capitol,   Atlanta, Ga 30334,   www.sos.state.ga.us,   404-656-2881,   sosweb@sos.state.ga.us


Re: DVD: "Macon Voting Scenes 3-2-04"


Dear Secretary Cox,

Thank you for visiting and speaking to my Macon Kiwanis Club on Tuesday, May 25th.

http://www.kiwanismacon.org

Since Georgia installed electronic voting under your leadership, I believe that we now have a better system than ever before.

But I have seen some areas for concern.

Last Thursday (May 27th), I mailed you a DVD compiled from video I recorded in Bibb County, Georgia on March 2nd, 2004.

It documents voting system problems related to human error, hardware failures, software instability and possible data loss.

At Kiwanis, it sounded as though "conspiracy-theorists" may have polarized your opinion concerning the current Diebold technology. It would be unfortunate if you were backed-up into a corner position where you may not be able to see some other broader issues.

In my dental office we back up data daily and we print a hard copy paper trail too. Every day this printout is reconciled between the paper ledger. Why? Because my computers have failed in many ways for many reasons. Most of the time it is due to operator error. Over the past 12 years, our verified paper trail has proved to be worth the extra effort.

It is my hope that you will keep an open mind to continuing the improvements to voting technology in Georgia.

US Rep. Rush Holt says this on his website, "The screen says your vote has been counted. As you exit the voting booth, however, you begin to wonder. How do I know if the machine actually recorded my vote? The fact is, you don’t."  Please see http://holt.house.gov/issues2.cfm?id=5996

and

For specific technological suggestions to improve voter confidence in Georgia, please visit:   Touch Screen Machines With a Voter-Verifiable Paper Audit Trail

Thank you,

Lindsay D Holliday


 Note: Cathy Cox responded  10 months later to the concerns listed above.  

 See scan of  her response dated March 30, 2005


Bibb County  Elections Supervisor, Elaine Carr calls to Diebold-Support:  

" We need help with computers that have frozen  "

Elaine Carr struggles with computer
                            failure







  "We have rebooted 6 times - for nothing"  

Reboot 6 times for nothing

Not pictured yet is the "Data-card Shuffle" - a "shell game" that is better observed with the video. 

Sunday, November 28, 2004 - www.AJC.com  from the Editors of the Atlanta Contitution

"Georgia Secretary of State Cathy Cox has been so giddy about the electronic voting machines used by millions on Election Day that the Ohio-based manufacturer features her in its online sales pitch.

"Just say the word, and Diebold will provide a solution," Cox gushes on the company's Web site, which includes an image of the Georgia state seal beside her testimonial. "Hundreds of jurisdictions have used Diebold Election Systems solutions to provide accurate, secure elections. But don't take our word for it. Our customers that have put Diebold solutions to work say it best!"


   Above quotes indicate that Cathy Cox may care more about  being a cheerleader for Diebold than ensuring verifiable election results in Georgia.    

"A spokesman for Cox said retrofitting touch-screen machines with printers in all 159 Georgia counties would cost between $15 million and $37 million".- from same editorial.  

 

  Does the "Cox spokesman" quoted above really not know about the already installed printers?  Or is the Ga SOS office intentionally misleading the citizens and taxpayers of Georgia?   

 

Voting Safely with Air Bags and Seat Belts too:

Seat belts are to Air bags  - as - Paper ballots are to DREs

Seat belts vs Air bags ? - One should use both if possible. !

One does not quit wearing the seat belt and shoulder harness just because one has a new air bag for collision protection. Air bags offer superior protection in a head-on collision, but they offer no help in rollovers when occupants are thrown from the vehicle that then can crush them.

Now carry this analogy back to voting with DREs:

Use both the DRE and the paper for synergistic verification and security

The DRE is convenient and it creates an unambiguous paper ballot with no overvotes, no misspellings, dimples nor half marked answers. And the paper ballot trail serves to keep programmers or partisans from attempting any "Trojan horse" type of computer programming fraud. It also allows for ballot recording and vote counting to be accessible to direct public oversight, which is as fundamental to our democratic principles as seat belts are to driver safety.

Dear Fellow Americans,

I am one among many who have no confidence in the way that DRE Diebold electronic voting machines are used in Georgia. Did your vote count in the last election? The fact is that you don't know.  The actual count will remain forever unknown because a meaningful audit is not possible without a voter-verified paper trail.

Diebold and the Georgia Secretary of State have decided to inactivate the paper printers during your vote. And the printout port is covered with a locked plastic panel until all voting is over.

The Diebold "faith based voting" system asks that we trust secret software and corporate impartiality. No way!

Please call your Representative and Senators. Ask for them to support  Federal Legislation to fix the problem.

Sincerely,

- Lindsay D Holliday    Macon, Ga   December 2004

How to Rig the Diebold DRE machines:

Clinton Curtis testifies before House Judiciary

December 15, 2004

Here's a video showing partial testimony of Clinton Curtis, the Floridian NASA computer programmer turned election fraud whistle-blower. His claim being that he was hired by Congressman Tom Feeney (R-FL) to develop vote rigging software. Clinton, or 'Clint' as on his affidavit, armed with a new book, is now bringing to light his apparent involvement.

Partial Testimony Below:

Q: [Congressman Nadler] And did he ever express why he wanted a code to rig an election?

CURTIS: No. I immediately assumed that they were trying to keep you guys from cheating with it... so... [laughter] so... I wrote up the documentation of what you would look for in the source code. How you would make sure the you - CUT - Mrs. Yang, and said, here's your report. Here's your program. And she said, you don't understand, we need to hide the fraud in the source. In the source code.

Q: Hide the fraud, not reveal the fraud?

CURTIS: Not reveal the fraud because they needed to control the vote in South Florida, is what she said.

Q: That's what she said?

CURTIS: That's what she said.

Q: To your knowledge, to your knowledge, was this used?

CURTIS: I have no idea. I was ready to leave, so... (laughter) and and I was tired and left the company.

Q: In your testimony a minute ago I think you said just before you left in answer to Congresswoman Tubbs Jones question, that... would you just repeat what you said in terms of uh the the uh exit polls?

CURTIS: The exit polls should not be significantly different from the vote.

Q: And if they were you would conclude what?

CURTIS: I would conclude someone's playing with the vote?

Q: Not with the exit polls?

CURTIS: That's possible too.

Q: OK and that's why...

CURTIS: Something is definitely skewed.

Q: Something is skewed with one of the other above.

CURTIS: To select which one you'd have to see where the problem is.

Q: Let me ask you one further question. Assuming for the moment that such software, [UNINTELLIGABLE] such software to rig a vote was used, in one or more machines in Ohio or in Florida, couldn't you today detect that if you looked at the source code?

CURTIS: If you could get the machines and they had not been patched yet. I mean, once they get in and touch em', anything could happen. You could also set timers to do that, but then you could see the timer. Then you'd have to take those machines, decompile them, which I couldn't do, but possibly a Microsoft, an MIT something could do, you might... you might be able to.

Q: You might?

CURTIS: Depends on how good they are at destroying what they had.

Q: Destroying what they had by tampering the machine afterwards, or by programming them to destroy instructions in the first place?

CURTIS: Right. Because then since you...

Q: Either or both?

CURTIS: Either or both. You didn't actually seen what's in there, so you don't know if the code is running as a single executable or running in various modules. If it's running in modules you could make the code actually eat itself.

Q: Let me ask you one further question. We've.... I've heard that people who assume that lots of the election results, that a large fraction of the election result within the state may have been effected by deliberate fraud in a computer, are paranoid, because in order to do that you would have to have access to thousands of machines and that would be readily detectable. To what extent is that true?

CURTIS: In depends on the technology that used. If you use a central tabulation machine that fed in, all you'd have to do is set a flag. You set a flag; the central tabulation machine would flip your vote.

Q: So if you. So one person putting in bad code in a central tabulation machine could affect thousands and thousands or tens of thousands of votes?

CURTIS: Right.

Q: And...

CURTIS: And you could activate either automatically, or you could make is so that there's code existing on like an otonic (?) machine which feeds it, where you would punch it in, it would see the flag, the server would see the flag and then...

Q: And if you had a recount and no paper trail, would that be, as soon as that had happened, would that be reversible by seeing the discrepancy between the tabulator, the central tabulator code, and what the individual machines which had not been tampered with code?

CURTIS: Not if I wrote it.

Q: Why not? In other words...

CURTIS: In other words I could make it match.

Q: You could work back from the tabulator to the individual machines, so that the tabulator could tell the machines to switch their results?

CURTIS: Yes. It talks both ways. You could flip it to whatever you need.

Q: And they actually do talk to each other. this the machines and the tabulator?

CURTIS: As long as it's hooked up. As long as they are networked together, they can talk to each other.

Q: So in other words, there is absolutely no assurance whatsoever on anything with regards to these machines.

CURTIS: Absolutely none, unless you look at the source code and make sure it's safe before it goes in.

Q: Thank you very much. [APPLAUSE]

Chair: Thank you Congressman Nadler. I know that Congresswoman Waters has questions, then Senator Miller, and then Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones.

Q: [Congresswoman Waters] This will only take a moment, if you would come back to the ...

CURTIS: I'm new at this.

Q: As you know, there has been a lot of discussion about that, I think it is Diebold Company. Their relationship to the President and a group within the administration and supposedly comments about helping to insure that the President is reelected. In your world in your environment, have you heard any of these kind of discussion? Do you know people from Diebold... do you have any sense of any actions that may have been taken?

CURTIS: I don't know anything about that at all.

Q: Thank You

CURTIS: Sorry.

Chair: Senator Miller

Q: [Senator Miller] Thank you Madam Chair.

Chair: Sir.

Q: I suspect that people will attack you in terms of your credibility. Could you restate once again for the record your credentials?

CURTIS: I'm a programmer. I worked for NASA. I've worked for Exxon/Mobile. Worked for the Department of Transportation. And, other elements of my story, because this company... well let's get into it, why not? [LAUGHTER] This company also, they have a NASA contract. and they were basically downloading tons of information, I mean gigabytes worth, and handing it off to this little Chinese guy named Henry Ng [Lee or Nee?] and it didn't seem right and he was packing things and I wrote a program for DOT that allowed contractors to send their information into DOT and he was kind of the quality assurance guy for software. He put a wiretapping module in the program that went to the contractors so that it actually sent everything they sent back to Yang. So I reported all this and just last March, I think, he was arrested for attempting to send anti-tank missile chips to the capitol of Communist China. If that's correct, this is such a small thing. [LAUGHTER] Although I think that he only got a hundred dollar fine and no time.

Chair: Thank You.

01:27 PM

http://www.ledgeofliberty.com/2004/12/video_clinton_c.html

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  The Daily Show with Jon Stewart

* The Daily Show featured a hilarious spoof of e-voting that featured a clip from an old interview  that John Hopkins' computer researcher - Avi Rubin did with the CBS Evening News as the "moment of zen".  To view the streaming video of the segment (about 5 minutes) click here.   This will bring a smile to your face and maybe a belly-laugh too.

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