Macon Area Transportation Study memberships By-Laws Citizens Advisory Committee here Caution Macon |
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A funny and revealing exchange
happened at the MATS-Policy meeting on Feb 3rd, 2010:
Joe Allen sets-it-up for Lindsay Holliday to declare the 1994 SPLOST (project - Forest Hill Rd) is no longer valid since, as Joe says, "the current Bibb Commission is Not bound to uphold any agreements signed by a Previous Bibb Commission Board." |
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Dialogue - 4 minutes is available to hear on the web here: http://www.macon-bibb.com/FHR/MATS-Policy_Joe-Allen-wont-pay-for-Chellman_20100203.mp3 excerpted transcript : Lindsay Holliday - The way I can shorten my (Forest Hill Road) presentation a lot today is by getting Rick Chellman (website with CV) down here to Macon (to do the presentation himself) Please see the handout - dated October 8, 2008 - Bibb Commission Letter to Chellman - page 2 says - the Commission "will be happy to extend an invitation to Chellman to speak about the reconstruction of FHR, whenever the Forest Hill Road project is restarted" ... So I'd like to table this item until a future meeting, then take it up again. Mayor - Certainly, Lindsay, that is your call to make. You want to withdraw it today and put it back on the next agenda? Lindsay - Yes. It would certainly be a much richer presentation if this topic is presented by a world class engineer (Mr Chellman). Mayor - Oh, you want Chellman to come to MATS Committee and present it? I have no objections to that. Does anyone else have an objection? Joe Allen - Who is going to pay for him to come? .... I was on the Bibb County Board of Commissioners, you are right. But one Board can Not "Relate to Another Board" to do something. From my understanding... You would have to get the Board of Commissioners that are in office at this particular time to agree with this - if you want Bibb County to Pay for it. Mayor - That is not what I hear Lindsay saying. I hear him saying that he just wants permission for Chellman to speak to us... He is not asking us to pay for him. Right? Joe - [maybe Chellman can be paid]... by the City or Macon. Mayor - What?... Laughs. Lindsay - There are enough caring citizens... We paid for Chellman to come before, and we can pay for him again. Lindsay [to Joe] - I'm glad you brought up the "previous Boards of Commission" - that whatever they "sign-off" on does not matter... This (pointing to FHR Project) is the 1994 SPLOST. And that was created by an OLD Board { "I was there" says Joe} Therefore, If the Old SPLOST projects are No Longer Valid, - that solves our problem... [laughter and clapping] And I thank you for that. Joe - That is Not the issue. Mayor - Ok. It will be on our next agenda. Mayor - Now for "New Business"..... [a painful moan from someone near the microphone - the meeting lasted longer than some peoples backsides...] |
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Tom
Scholl testified with new data in charts and graphs that show
the traffic counts and accident rates in the Forest Hill Rd -
Environmental Assessment - needs to be revisited, corrected and
reinterpreted. Scholl's research is here: FHR-EA-Traffic-Scholl5.pdf |
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Joy Hulgan asked for a simpler (and expedited) solution for Forest Hill Rd at Ridge Ave. 1- A simple Left-Turn Lane at the existing light, or 2- A Roundabout She it would be a waste of time and money to do a bigger project at this intersection. |
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Lee Martin read rapidly from his prepared statement: Good morning Mr. Chairman, members of the committee and interested guests. I am a lifelong Maconite and I love my city. At least I love what it used to be. Almost everything that we treasure today about our city, was built over 50 years ago.....one exception being the Riverwalk Trail and the Water Work’s Park. Interestingly, both were conceived and designed twenty years ago by 2 citizens, one of whom happened to be my wife. Our elected officials said the concept wouldn't work and they wouldn't build it, but that quality of life addition will now be appreciated for another 50 years. Sadly, their contribution...for the vision, concept, and design has never been acknowledged or appreciated. Although that’s another story for another day I point it out to show that it’s never too late to do the right thing and that citizens are capable of conceiving and designing improvements to our city that will outlive us.... and last for more than 50 years. But today, our city is hurting... Which brings me to Forest Hill Road.....We have to get it right. Macon can not afford to lose any more neighborhoods for whatever reason and too much pavement should be the least of them AND... If you want to get it right then read this book, “Suburban Nation..The Rise of Sprawl and the Decline of the American Dream,” by Andres Duany and Elizabeth Plater- Zyberk, two of the original founders of The Congress for New Urbanism and the lead directors of our Beall’s Hill charrette. I believe I have heard Chairman Reichert reference the term, “New Urbanism” on a number of occasions. Mr. Rick Chellman of TND Engineering, was hired by the neighbors and friends of Forest Hill Road to assist them in mediation which failed through no fault of the FHR team. Mr. Chellman is also a co-founder of The Congress for New Urbanism and is referenced or quoted in this book at least 4 times. (Pass out his CV) He has offered a design for FHR of which the neighborhood approves and which meets all the standards set forth in AASHTO (the traffic engineers Bible). The Needs and Purpose in the Environmental Assessment for this project has changed and the old one no longer serves its intended purpose. The accident assessments in the EA were wrong by 30%! The traffic count projections in the EA made by the Road Program have been called the “Stuff of Houdini” by the Macon Telegraph. Here is a prime example of the misuse of traffic counts as prepared by Mr. Jim Evans, of Post, Buckley, Shue and Jernigan and testified to under oath by Mr. Evans in the Houston Road Federal court case. READ THE TRANSCRIPT (available online) So, I'm not sure where Mr. Evans got his 30,000 cars a day projections (probably the same place that the FHR projections came from!), but around the time construction began, P&Z came back with revised projected counts of9,000 cars a day a much more accurate count. In the January 21st Telegraph article a P&Z staffer was quoted and explained the decreasing traffic counts on FHR by positing that they were caused by weary drivers using another road! Isn't that exactly what a good connective system of roadways is designed to do? There should be multiple roads to get where one wants to go, not just one super wide speedway. He further stated that FHR was at capacity with 16,000 cars a day. Well, my goodness, the two-lane West Paces Ferry Road in Atlanta handles 25,600 cars a day and they haven't widened the road, but instead have made their intersections more efficient. In closing I'd like to quote just a few comments from the book, Suburban Nation: “Those who are skeptical of the need for a fundamental reconsideration of transportation planning should take note of something we experienced a few years ago. In a large working session on the design of Playa Vista, an urban infill project in Los Angeles, the traffic engineer was presenting a report of current and projected congestion around the development. From our seat by the window, we had an unobstructed rush hour view of a street he had diagnosed as highly congested and in need of widening. Why, then, was traffic flowing smoothly, with hardly any stacking at the traffic light? When we asked, the traffic engineer offered an answer that should be recorded permanently in the annals of the profession: (Quote) “The computer model that we use does not necessarily bear any relationship to reality.” What an indictment of computer traffic modeling! In the early twentieth century, practically every roadway investment resulted in an increase in the value of adjacent properties. But since 1950, roadway investment has often had the opposite effect, robbing neighborhoods of their economic value by degrading the environment.” “Just as in residential neighborhoods, city streets must be narrow and lanes should be ten feet wide, not twelve (the road program has designed FHR with 14 foot lanes!) With on street parallel to protect the pedestrian. To make life easier for both walkers and drivers, streets should be two-way (one-lane in each direction).” And in closing, “ With empowerment comes responsibility. Now that citizens have earned a position in the planning process, it is their duty to become experts in good design, and to demand the same from those in charge” Please, let’s get it right this time. Thank you. - Lee Martin Macon |
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Audio of Meeting was recorded by 2 people. Policy Committee
Chairman – Sam Hart,
Chairman, Bibb County Commission (Not present) Vice-Chairman – Robert Reichert, Mayor, City of Macon Miriam Paris - President, Macon City Council Lonnie Miley - (absent) Chairman, City of Macon Public Works Committee (Not present)
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New (or Old)
SPLOST Monies for Macon Transit Authority?
Director of the Macon
Transit Authority, Mr
Rick Jones reports: New Transit Busses will be Greener - less emmissions. Old Fleet (manufactured in a defunct Mexico factory) is falling apart, and repair parts are very difficult to locate. Mayor Reichert asked Mr Jones, if MTA might be able to use some (New) SPLOST funds to help with the needed matching funds for the new busses. Mr Jones, of course, said "yes". A few minutes later, Lindsay Holliday suggested that Transit Authority might could borrow some money from the (Old) 1994 SPLOST so they could proceed with matching Fed+State funds to get the new busses. Reichert and Allen said that 1994 money is already allocated and it could Not be repurposed - to which Holliday replied that he could show them numerous instances where the 1994 SPLOST moneys were shifted around, and thus, they (some funds) have already been repurposed. --They denied this, and then Reichert said that "in the interest of time," he was going to limit further discussions to the Committee Members only. This effectively shut Holliday out of further discussions. After the meeting, someone mentioned that the 1994 SPLOST money might still be available "if the original legislation mentions the word transit...(or transportation)" Nearby were Mr Jones and Mariam Paris - who volunteered that she might have the City Attorney, Pope Langstaff look into (review) the legislation wording to see if it might be used to front a short term loan to MTA for the needed busses. Follow-up Info: The 1994-SPLOST-Authorization documents are now webposted here: http://www.macon-bibb.com/MATS/1994-SPLOST-Authorization.pdf The documents clearly show that Macon Transit Authority was to benefit with Several Million $ for Capital Outlays. See scanned pages 17/26 and 19/26. So the MATS leaders were wrong to say the 1994 SPLOST had nothing to do with Transit. Thus, any money left in various categories of the 1994 SPLOST may certainly be shifted to provide a short term loan to MTA to help them buy the "green" busses to help us clean up our dirty air. MATS-CAC might hold a called meeting to get an update of the 1994 SPLOST Finances. It is interesting to read this old document to see how Many Projects were Shifted/Changed! Examples: 1- Houston Rd was Supersized. 2- Ingleside was Downsized. 3- Wesleyan Drive was abandoned 4- Commissioners vote to shift funds on Dec. 11th 2006.pdf 5.- ...etc... PS- Please Note: 30% of Bibb adults do not have access to an automobile, and of the 70% who do own a car, 17% are too dangerous, and should not be on the roads. |
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More Topics
Discussed **- 2nd Street Bridge - see picture (to be posted) - Roundabout at Walnut St and 7th Street - for Truck Route to keep trucks out of Museum District. - see picture (to be posted) - Fall Line Freeway - new Option - see picture (to be posted) - Telegraph Article reprinted below; and found here: http://www.macon.com/local/story/1009944.html -1994 SPLOST Funds - What is current balance? No one knew at the meeting. Who is watching the Money? - |
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Discussions
concerning the Conformity Determination Report (CDR)
We asked - How many local Air Quality Sensors? Jim Thomas said there are 2. What do they measure besides Ozone? Particulates? NOX? SOX? No answer. After the meeting: Follow-up by another Concerned Citizen: - Please Note - It was citizens who had to explain to the
Mayor and to the Policy committee members how many air quality monitors
there are in middle Georgia and their locations. Mayor Reichert has
been chair of the Clean Air Coalition for two years and he didn't know.
Don Tussing, of P&Z, said at the last Citizens Advisory
Meeting that EPD was not even monitoring air quality in Macon at
the present time, and he was giving a presentation on the Conformity
Determination Report which looks at, using,,, {drum roll, please}
......................."modeling" the impact transportation
planning will have on local air quality, and he
didn't know. He gave the same to the Policy Committee, but no
one the Policy hardly ever asks questions!
Anyway, to make sure my answer was correct, I verified it yesterday with EPD. I will admit I was partially wrong when I said there was only one monitor -- there are physically 3 monitors in Middle Georgia, but I was correct that only one is actually monitoring "total" air quality. The one at Lake Tobosofkee is moth-balled and has been for two years. So, it's there, but not there! The working monitor station at the Georgia State Forestry Center on Riggins Mill Road, tests the following compounds for determination of non-attainment, PM2.5, ground level ozone, and Sulfur Dioxide, although I think Sulfur Dioxide is in a "Regional Classification" by itself. The monitor station also tests for other compounds, but they are not used in determination of non-attainment. I also was reminded (I knew this, but had forgotten) that there is a monitoring station at Allied Chemical that only tests for PM2.5. I would give Jim Thomas who answered at the Policy committee credit for being correct when he said he thought there were two working monitoring stations in Macon, but he was referencing the second one at Lake Tobosofkee, and he of all people should know the correct answer! I hope this doesn't sound petty, but we run into this every day, and it's frustrating when citizens, more often than not, know more than the officials making the decisions for our future and adding insult to injury, the officials don't want to hear from us. - CCitizen.
PS - According to the lady I spoke with at EPD, Sulfur Dioxide can also put a region into non-attainment, but we are not in it for that. We're in it because of PM2.5 and ground level ozone. Here are the EPD websites
that the lady gave us:
www.georgiaair.org
Click
on "hot topics" on the left sidebar and then click on "EPD 2008
Ambient Air Monitoring Plan" for the .pdf file.
The other one is a long one. http://www.air.dnr.state.ga.us/amp/index.php
(Baby
Blue page) Click on at bottom of page Ambient Monitoring
Program---Annual Data Reports" and select 2008...or any year you choose.
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Contacts: www.mta-mac.com Rick L. Jones General Manager/CEO Macon Transit Authority 200 Cherry St. Macon 31201 478-803-2500 cell 335-7431 rjones@mta-mac.com David Gowan <dgowan@bibb.k12.ga.us>, Director of Risk Management Bibb BOE 765-8647 +Springdale PTO Sandie Parker sub-contr from URS-Corp. School Outreach Coordinator for Central Georgia www.SafeRoutesGA.org Sandie@SafeRoutesGA.org 877.GDOT.W2S c. 404-849-3563 Keeper of Minutes and Attendance. Ken North Transportation Planner Macon-Bibb Planning & Zoning Office 478 751-7462 GaDOT - Transit Planner, Audrey Rivers 404.631-1790 arivers@dot.ga.gov www.dot.ga.gov |
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http://www.macon.com/2010/02/04/1009944/new-fall-line-freeway-proposed.htmlThursday, Feb. 04, 2010New Fall Line Freeway plan goes much farther southBy MIKE STUCKA - mstucka@macon.com Talk of the Fall Line Freeway bypass south of Macon’s downtown is back. Macon Mayor Robert Reichert offered a new proposal Wednesday to a regional planning group, which agreed to look at his suggestion. Bibb County commissioners are interested, and one frequent road critic thinks the plan may have merit. The original route was supposed to have extended Eisenhower Parkway east through swampland, the Traditional Cultural Property of the Muscogee Indians and land intended to be annexed into the Ocmulgee National Monument. The new proposal goes much farther to the south, starting in Byron, pushing south of the Middle Georgia Regional Airport in south Bibb County, and ultimately cutting across several miles of wetlands to tie into Interstate 16 in Twiggs County and a connection to Ga. 57. The route connects to Interstate 75 through Ga. 49 in Byron and through an under-construction interchange at Sardis Church Road in south Bibb County. The Macon mayor’s proposal would keep the road more than four miles outside the city limits. He said he’s more interested in the route than the Fall Line Freeway name. Reichert said the proposal could relieve traffic congestion in Macon, create more economic development opportunities and make it much easier to reach Robins Air Force Base from Interstate 16. Reichert said he’s thinking regionally about the plan and things that benefit Macon, Bibb County, Houston County and Twiggs County benefit the others. “What I’m trying to do is build this transportation and logistics hub in south Bibb, north Houston County that would have rail, air and highway connections,” he said. “Plenty of land out there for industrial parks. It also provides a front door for Robins Air Force Base from I-16.” Bibb County Commissioner Elmo Richardson, an engineer, said officials have been talking about the proposal, which could bring needed help for the base. Richardson said the project has big hurdles of time, money and environment. “You’ve got to bridge the Ocmulgee River, you’ve got to bridge some swampy areas, and there’s a lot of environmental considerations as well,” he said. “It’ll take a lot of study and a lot of money, no question about that.” Tom Scholl, a founder of the volunteer CAUTION Macon group that monitors road projects, said he was intrigued by bits he learned Wednesday at a Macon Area Transportation Study committee meeting. It seems like an alternative to an Eisenhower extension, he said. “It seemed to be a thoughtful alternative that is well worth further study,” Scholl said. Reichert said the Eisenhower Parkway extension is all but dead. “It is not going to happen. It is as dead as a hammer,” he said. Crystal Paulk-Buchanan, spokeswoman for the Georgia Department of Transportation, said Wednesday that the Eisenhower Parkway Extension project is not officially off the state’s list of future road projects. However, “the department has determined, considering the environmental complications and Georgia DOT’s inadequate funding resources, the department cannot pursue the project at this time,” she said. Pieces of Reichert’s puzzle are falling into place. The state’s official Fall Line Freeway route moves from Ga. 49 east to I-75 in Byron. Reichert said the new route could run from there to U.S. 41 to the Sardis Church Road Extension and Avondale Mill Road that the state is working on. The new Sardis Church Road exit on I-75 provides another way to get to Ga. 247, he said. From there, he wants to build a road from Ga. 247 to Sgoda Road, across swamps and a river, connecting the path to I-16. Drivers could then take U.S. 23/U.S.129 to connect to the rest of the Fall Line Freeway route, which picks up again at Ga. 57 toward Wilkinson County. Other segments of the proposed route between Columbus and Augusta have not been built. The route now follows I-75 to I-16 through Macon. Telegraph staff writer S. Heather Duncan contributed to this report. To contact writer Mike Stucka, call 744-425 |
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