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Open Records Request - October 13, 2010
ORR-20101013.htm

Macon, Ga

  SOS forest



 To:  "Hilliard, Bobby" <bhilliard@dot.ga.gov>,  "Buchan, Ben" <bbuchan@dot.ga.gov>,  "Ford, Clinton" <cford@dot.ga.gov>,
Subject: ORR for communications concerning FHR sent to Jim Marshall

Cc: Carol Lystlund  <clyst@att.net>,  Susan Hanberry Martin <shanberry@stratford.org>, <mermaidlover@bellsouth.net>, Dan Fischer <FISCHER_DP@Mercer.edu>,   fischer.daniel@att.net,   Alice Boyd <dmbx1@cox.net>,

Bcc: tomscholl@cox.net, "Paul E. Fisher" <admin@pefisher.us>, Victor Jones <victor_jones_2000@hotmail.com>

Open Records Request
Forest Hill Road - Project STP-3213, Bibb County.

Dear Sirs:

This email is an open records request for electronic copies (emails) of all electronic mail (emails) sent from GDOT  to  US Rep Jim Marshall, his   offices or his staff persons regarding the FHR projects (Forest Hill Rd -Project STP-3213, Bibb County). 

We are asking for these emails and also for any other communications sent within the past 5 months to US Rep Jim Marshall's offices .

Thank-you,
Lindsay D Holliday
for the
- Forest Hill Rd Neighborhood Mediation Team:
 
- Carol Lystlund <clyst@att.net>
730 Forest Hill Rd.
Macon 31210

 - Lindsay Holliday <teeth@mindspring.com>
744 Forest Hill Rd.
Macon 31210

- Susan Hanberry Martin <shanberry@stratford.org>
4831 Guerry Drive
Macon 31210

 - Dan Fischer <FISCHER_DP@Mercer.edu>
489 Ashville Drive
Macon 31210

- Alice Boyd <dmbx1@cox.net>
540 Forest Hill Rd
Macon 31210

  
 
 
 

Subject: ORR for communications concerning FHR sent to Jim Marshall - 20101013 - email

   
  Some Talking-Points (link)




 
From: "Perry, Brigetta" <bperry@dot.ga.gov>
To: 'Holliday Dental' <teeth@mindspring.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:58
Subject: ORR for communications concerning FHR sent to Jim Marshall   Forest
 Hill Rd -Project STP-3213, Bibb County


Dear Dr. Holliday,
 
You will find below attachments (email) responsive to your recent request regarding the Forest Hill Road Project. 
 
 
Sincerely,
 
Brigetta 'Britt' Perry
Legal Services Coordinator
Office of Legal Affairs
600 West Peachtree Street, NW
Atlanta, GA 30308-2214
(404) 631-1483/Office
Email: bperry@dot.ga.gov


From: "Gentry, Dan" <dgentry@dot.ga.gov>
To: "Perry, Brigetta" <bperry@dot.ga.gov>
CC: "Gentry, Dan" <dgentry@dot.ga.gov>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:08 
Subject: FW: Just FYI, GDOT staff are working on response to Qs about Forest Hill Rd
 

From: Nelson, Tim [mailto:tim.nelson@mail.house.gov]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:13 AM
To: Gentry, Dan
Subject: Project No STP-3213(1)

 

This is what the “anti” project people are citing as their support: http://www.macon-bibb.com/FHR/FHR_Traffic-EA-Sholl_20100210.pdf

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Timothy M. Nelson, CPA
Office of Congressman Jim Marshall
Phone: 202-225-6531 - Fax: 202-225-3013
Email:
tim.nelson@mail.house.gov


From: Gentry, Dan [mailto:dgentry@dot.ga.gov]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:22 PM
To: Nelson, Tim
Cc: Ross, Gerald
Subject: RE: Project No STP-3213(1)

 

This covers your requested GDOT response to certain local citizens’ criticisms of project development, particularly traffic projections, for proposed improvement to Forest Hill Road in Macon.  This response is based on considerable GDOT review.

 

The “Forest Hill Corridor” consists of three separate proposed projects that GDOT has programmed as PI 351130 - a proposed three-lane road from Northside Drive to Wimbish Road, PI 351135 - a bridge culvert over Savage Creek, and PI 350520 - a proposed four-lane roadway from Wimbish Road to Vineville /Forsyth Road/US 41.  All three of these projects were included in one environmental assessment (“Environmental Document”) which was approved by FHWA in June 2004.  By a state-local agreement, Bibb County is responsible for undertaking project development/preliminary engineering, design and right-of-way acquisition.   Bibb County hired Moreland Altobelli  Associates to oversee the project management for the Forest Hill Corridor and Moreland contracted Stantec Consulting Services to do the plan development (right of way and construction plans) and various other elements of design.  Since the project is being funded with federal funds, GDOT is responsible for ensuring that Bibb County’s work complies with all applicable federal (and state) requirements.

 

Concerning the principal criticism – traffic projections – projections were developed by Moreland Altobelli based on 2025 design year traffic  from the Macon Area Transportation Study travel demand model.  These numbers were in turn developed using estimates from GDOT’s 2000 annual publication of “Traffic Counts Macon-Bibb County”.  Due to local concerns, additional “current” counts were undertaken within the project limits in December 2001.  These traffic counts were used in the approved Environmental Document.

 

The traffic volumes were  counted again in 2004 to address concerns within the community and have been reevaluated twice in 2006 and once in 2008.  These evaluations were performed as part of the reevaluation of the original Environmental Document as the project was revised in the project development process.  With each environmental reevaluation, GDOT has reviewed Moreland’s traffic projections and found them to be acceptable, and in response to Congressman Marshall’s current inquiry about local concerns regarding the projections, we again reviewed the projections and found them to be acceptable.

 

In responding to the congressman’s inquiry, the department again reviewed the traffic projections developed by Moreland Altobelli for the county (as contained in the Final Environmental Assessment/Finding of No Significant Impact, page 3) and found the projections acceptable.  Review of the GDOT traffic counts at Overlook Drive, north of Wimbish and Newport Road were used in this review.  The growth factor used in the final environmental report is 2.0% per year which was consistent with what the trend was showing several years ago.  However, even using a more conservative growth factor of 1.8 %, the results are still within one to two thousand vehicles per day of the original projections.  These numbers are well within the acceptable range.  Projections are as follows:

 

Years

Overlook/#445

North of Wimbish/#447

Newport/#449

2007

14260

7650

10600

2015

15750

8450

11700

2025

18850

10100

14000

2035

22500

12100

16700

 

A key issue is that for the past couple of years there has generally been a decline in traffic volumes due to increased gasoline prices and the reduced economic activity.  We believe that when the economy recovers actual traffic volumes will be in line with the projections.  We are already seeing an upward trend for 2010.

 

As the project continues to progress through the plan development process, GDOT expects to again be involved with yet another reevaluation of the Environmental Document (including the traffic projections) and with safety concerns and the statement of Need and Purpose for the proposed project.  We believe Bibb County, with GDOT’s support, has responded to a consensus of local community concerns in modifying the project’s design.

 

Concerning the other 2 items raised by (some) local interests – accident analysis and logical termini – GDOT staff supports the current consultant analysis and decisions.

 

GDOT in general supports the county’s proposed final design for both Forrest Hill Road roadway projects.  Past modifications to design have triggered required reevaluations of the environmental review.  Additional substantive changes in basic design concept and right-of-way limits would do the same, adding to time and expense.

 

 

Dan Gentry

Federal Policy and Congressional Liaison

Georgia Department of Transportation

600 West Peachtree Street NW

Atlanta, Georgia 30308

404-631-1479


From: Nelson, Tim [mailto:tim.nelson@mail.house.gov]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:45 PM
To: Gentry, Dan
Subject: RE: Project No STP-3213(1)

 

This a very detailed response. I appreciate the time you took to review this.

 

Can I share this (without your email address and name) with the constituents who contacted us?   

 

Timothy M. Nelson, CPA
Office of Congressman Jim Marshall
Phone: 202-225-6531 - Fax: 202-225-3013
Email:
tim.nelson@mail.house.gov

 



From: Nelson, Tim [mailto:tim.nelson@mail.house.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:20 PM
To: Gentry, Dan
Subject: RE: Project No STP-3213(1)

 

This is what you wrote.

 

Timothy M. Nelson, CPA
Office of Congressman Jim Marshall
Phone: 202-225-6531 - Fax: 202-225-3013
Email:
tim.nelson@mail.house.gov

 


From: Gentry, Dan [mailto:dgentry@dot.ga.gov]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Nelson, Tim
Cc: Ross, Gerald; Curtis, Gloria
Subject: RE: Project No STP-3213(1)

 

Nothing in this we wouldn’t say publicly but I request that you share with the county first to get their review and “approval.”  GDOT is a “third party” here, the local-feds go-between since fed $ are being used, but this is a county project.  We don’t want to get crossways with our “county partner.”

 

Dan Gentry

Federal Policy and Congressional Liaison

Georgia Department of Transportation

600 West Peachtree Street NW

Atlanta, Georgia 30308

404-631-1479




From: Nelson, Tim [mailto:tim.nelson@mail.house.gov]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 4:31 PM
To: Gentry, Dan
Cc: Ross, Gerald; Curtis, Gloria
Subject: RE: Project No STP-3213(1)

 

Understood. Thanks.

 

Timothy M. Nelson, CPA
Office of Congressman Jim Marshall
Phone: 202-225-6531 - Fax: 202-225-3013
Email:
tim.nelson@mail.house.gov


From: "Gentry, Dan" <dgentry@dot.ga.gov>
To: "Perry, Brigetta" <bperry@dot.ga.gov>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:06:34 -0400
Subject: FW: Project No STP-3213(1)

 

Dan Gentry

Federal Policy and Congressional Liaison

Georgia Department of Transportation

600 West Peachtree Street NW

Atlanta, Georgia 30308

404-631-1479


From: Nelson, Tim [mailto:tim.nelson@mail.house.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:13 AM
To: Gentry, Dan
Subject: RE: Project No STP-3213(1)

 

Any luck/progress on determining what my office can release?

 

Thanks!

 

Timothy M. Nelson, CPA
Office of Congressman Jim Marshall
Phone: 202-225-6531 - Fax: 202-225-3013
Email:
tim.nelson@mail.house.gov

From: Gentry, Dan
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:47 PM
To: 'Nelson, Tim'
Subject: RE: Project No STP-3213(1)

 

We are fine with Mr. Marshall sharing about our reevaluation of the methodology of the traffic projections, our conclusion that it was valid and our expectation that the future  “design year” traffic projections will likely occur, preferably sharing with the project sponsor first.  This may not have great effect on the local opponents.

 

I am awaiting (promised by today) Bibb Co.-wide traffic (miles of travel) that shows the overall trend in area traffic in recent years compared to the 2000-2005 timeframe.  We will see if that reinforces the argument that slower-than-expected growth (compared to when projections done in early 2000s) on this local road is just part of the larger trend.  Of course there are always unique factors on any given street.

 

Dan Gentry

Federal Policy and Congressional Liaison

Georgia Department of Transportation

600 West Peachtree Street NW

Atlanta, Georgia 30308

404-631-1479


From: Gentry, Dan
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 2:36 PM
To: 'Nelson, Tim'
Subject: Forest Hills Road inquiry: trend in traffic for Bibb County

 

Here are traffic trends (in vehicle miles of travel) for Bibb County, showing “strong” growth from the mid-90s through mid-2000s then much reduced, even negative growth in the 2006-2009 period after the historic spike in fuel prices following Hurricanes Katrina/Rita in the fall of 2005 and then sharp downturn in the economy in 2008.  The 20-year projected annual traffic growth for Forest Hills Road (in average annual daily traffic for this individual street), done in the early 2000s, was 2%.

 

Given the county-wide (and statewide/nationwide) experience of reduced traffic growth in the late 2000s, it is not surprising actual traffic counts on Forest Hills Road have not risen to the levels projected for those years in the early 2000s forecast.  (We note again that changes in traffic on an individual street, while much influenced by macro-trends, are also influenced by factors “unique” to the subarea surrounding the street.)

 

Dan Gentry

Federal Policy and Congressional Liaison





Additional Questions for GDOT:


Please supply the dates that the "Actual" counts were taken so we can better understand if the counts were taken at times of unusually busy or slow traffic.

Please supply the names of the people/employment/firms involved in actual collection and certification of the actual counts.

Please display the equations and methodology that produced the traffic projections shown above.  

Please indicate which numbers used in the equations are hard numbers vs guestimate numbers.  Please indicate the source of each "hard" number(s).



- CAUTION Macon -


Forest Hill Road